In this enchanting episode of Made to Make, we meet Heidi Hooper, an artist who has transformed something as ordinary as dryer lint into extraordinary works of art. Consumer Reports calls her The Andy Warhol of Dryer Lint, Heidi shares her journey of creativity, resilience, and whimsical ingenuity.
From a childhood defying family norms to health challenges including cancer, Heidi’s path hasn’t been conventional — but it has been deeply purposeful. Through illness and adversity, art became both refuge and calling, leading her to experiment with lint, a medium many would overlook. What emerged is a signature style that blends intricate detail, emotional depth, and playful storytelling.
Heidi takes listeners behind the scenes of her craft, from layering and compressing lint to creating portraits and whimsical animals that delight collectors worldwide. She reflects on the skepticism she faced, the joy she discovered in unexpected materials, and the role of humor, authenticity, and emotional connection in every piece.
Throughout the conversation, Heidi offers wisdom for anyone on a creative path:
- Embrace the unconventional and let curiosity guide you
- Persist through doubt, criticism, and setbacks
- Find joy in the process, not just the finished work
- Build sustainable practices that honor your physical and emotional limits
This episode celebrates imagination, resilience, and the beauty that can arise from the most unlikely places. Heidi’s story is a reminder that art — and life — can be playful, bold, and profoundly meaningful, even in the humblest of mediums.
TAKEAWAYS
- Heidi had to hide her artwork as a child.
- Her journey into dryer lint art began after a cancer diagnosis.
- She spent years experimenting with dryer lint before finding her style.
- Heidi’s art aims to bring joy and smiles to others.
- She believes every piece of art should evoke a positive reaction.
- Heidi receives dryer lint from around the world.
- Her whimsical art often tells a story or captures a moment.
- She uses a unique process involving watercolor paper and archival glue.
- Heidi emphasizes the importance of patience in the creative process.
- Criticism should be viewed as an opinion, not a reflection of worth.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction to Heidi Hooper and her unique art journey
00:45 Heidi’s childhood and family background
01:48 How health issues led to experimenting with dryer lint
03:48 Creative techniques and overcoming physical challenges
07:19 Connecting with her audience and the joy her art brings
08:40 Stories behind her whimsical creations
11:55 The creative process: from fuzz to finish
13:33 Struggles gaining recognition for unconventional mediums
17:09 Persistence and resilience in building her art career
20:56 Memorable moments with celebrity guests
22:30 Coping with creative blocks and staying inspired
24:23 Advice for aspiring artists and overcoming self-doubt
29:12 Connect with Heidi
ABOUT HEIDI
Heidi Hooper graduated with honors in Sculpture from Virginia Commonwealth University and completed a Master’s at the Massachusetts College of Art (where she also taught for some time).
Then cancer hit, and required the removal of most of her right arm muscle. She had to change the focus of her artwork from metalsmithing, in which she was trained. She tried many different media and, in a move that surprised even her, ended up creating art from dryer lint.
None of the lint is dyed (how can you dye what is essentially dust?), and it has shelves full of sorted lint to choose from when creating a new piece. Now, fans from all over the country send her their colorful lint.
Her work has been featured in Ripley’s Believe it or Not books and museums around the world, and Consumer Reports has called her “The Andy Warhol of Dryer Lint.” She has won two Niche Awards for her work and recently appeared on ABC TV’s “To Tell The Truth,” where celebrities like Mel Brooks had to guess who the real dryer-lint artist was, and made a guest appearance on “Access Hollywood.”
She was the featured artist in a recent Pennsylvania Magazine, and has previously been profiled in The Circle Magazine, 60 Second Docs, American Spark, and many others.
CONNECT WITH HEIDI
WEBSITE www.HeidiHooper.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HeidiHooperArt
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/heidi.hooper1
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidihooperart/
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/HeidiHooper
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TRANSCRIPT
Shannon Grissom (00:00)
to Made to Make. Here we talk about creativity, the challenges that come with it, and why we keep showing up anyway. Because hey, we are all Made to Make.
Welcome to the Made to Make podcast. I’m your host, Shannon Grissom. Today we are joined by artist Heidi Hooper. Heidi is known worldwide for transforming something most of us throw away, dryer lint, into intricate whimsical works of art. Her story is one of creativity, resilience, and seeing possibilities where others don’t. Heidi, welcome to the show.
Heidi Hooper (00:45)
Thank you. Nice to see everybody. Well, I’m not really seeing everybody, but whatever. Yeah.
Shannon Grissom (00:54)
I can see you. So I want to start at the beginning. Were you always creative as a kid? How did your childhood look?
Heidi Hooper (01:03)
boy, ⁓ as far as a childhood, ⁓ my parents were, if you’ve ever seen the movie, You Can’t Take It With You, my family was like the banker family. They were very anti anything creative. ⁓ no. I literally had to hide artwork drawings in between the mattresses. Wow. So wow.
So yeah, I only ever had one art class in high school and that’s the only art I ever had been exposed to talk. ⁓ The rest was just basically on my own ⁓ going to the library and looking stuff up.
Shannon Grissom (01:48)
Wow. Well, you’ve done lots of different mediums. How did you land on the dryer lint?
Heidi Hooper (01:57)
⁓ For lack of a better way to say it, cancer. ⁓ I’m patient zero for a new cancer that’s all microscopic. ⁓ Great. Like you said, Murphy’s the Light is my middle name. Anything that goes screwy, it goes screwy with me. And while I was, I had it for like 20 years.
Shannon Grissom (02:01)
I you.
Heidi Hooper (02:19)
⁓ so I spent, once I was able to get up and start doing stuff, basically I just every day trying to find something else I could do. And the dryer lint came about because my mother-in-law was looking after me and she did laundry and she had lupus and didn’t know she had lupus, which means you can’t feel heat. and so all my chenille throws became burlap.
Shannon Grissom (02:47)
Ha ha.
Heidi Hooper (02:50)
So I spent like four years trying to figure out what the hell to do with this stuff because I literally had a a collie size Pile in front of the dryer and another one on top of the dryer from her Wow Well, it was like this is fate telling me I got to figure something out with this ⁓ So I did I spent four years doing test drives. let’s try this. let’s try that. Let’s try this, you know
doing it on cardboard and a moldy basement. I mean, I was trying everything to see if it was a viable something to work with. ⁓ And then it finally clicked. I mean, the first work for the first couple of years just got off. It’s like I ended up taking them apart or else throwing them in the garbage because it was so bad. ⁓ And then the first piece I ever did, stupid sometimes.
Shannon Grissom (03:35)
God bless all of us.
Heidi Hooper (03:48)
I went outside because I went, there’s no wind blowing. It’s a beautiful day. I’m going to go work outside. Yeah. Just flying across the lawn. And I went, well, I knew better than that. What was I thinking?
Shannon Grissom (04:04)
Well, you so you’ve you talk about cancer and You’ve had challenges with other mediums. Can you speak to that and and how that got you going on the dryer lint?
Heidi Hooper (04:18)
my gosh, I’m always, I’ve always been, guess because I had to teach myself, I’ve always been anytime I see something that like, I don’t know how to do that. I’m going to go and try it at least once ⁓ until I physical pain, I’m going to try it. ⁓ And, and so I’m constantly trying different things. And a lot of it comes also from when I went to college, I studied sculpture and in sculpture, you have to learn
every medium. Instead of like specifying on just one, like being just painter or just ceramicist or whatever, ⁓ they make you learn a semester in every field, or at least VCU did when I was there. ⁓ And so I had, when I was sick with a cancer, I had all this wonderful memory to pull upon. So all these different techniques that I tried and I could try again and see if maybe I could make them work this time around.
Shannon Grissom (05:19)
Well, I know that you’ve because of the cancer you’ve had physical challenges in creating your work. So how do you get around that?
Heidi Hooper (05:30)
⁓ Well, the smithing I had to stop, I used to be a armor smith. made armor for the New York Renaissance Fair. ⁓ Wow. That was the first thing that had to stop because I couldn’t even, I couldn’t hold a hammer or a file anymore. ⁓ And so then I tried sculpting dolls. I did portrait dolls ⁓ and they…
And then eventually my hands got to where I couldn’t hold the tools to do that even. ⁓ And then I ended up with the dryer lint. So it’s like, one thing after the other. It’s I’m not, I’m not a person to sit down and mope. It’s like, it’s not working. Well, I’ll find another way around. If I can’t find another way around it, well, then I’ll ditch it, come back to it another day and try something else.
Shannon Grissom (06:21)
So I’ve seen from your website that people from all over the place are sending you. Do I? So tell me about that. ⁓
Heidi Hooper (06:30)
my god, it is so wild. I get dryer lint from London and Australia and Germany. I’m like, what the heck? Yeah, it’s awesome. It’s totally awesome. Most of my lint, I will confess, most of my lint is ugly gray. Ugly gray or black. As you can see, I wear dark colors ⁓ because I spill a lot so that way you don’t see spills when you’re wearing dark colors.
So, ⁓ yeah, it’s, it’s I send everybody postcards as a thank you. And ⁓ I send them a postcard, but it’s like, my God. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s, do like a little Snoopy. Yes, Annie. Everybody knows you’re here.
Shannon Grissom (07:19)
Hello Annie.
Heidi Hooper (07:21)
I do like a little Snoopy, I honestly got I do like a little Snoopy dance every time I get in dryer lint in the mail because it’s like
Shannon Grissom (07:28)
Well, I am going to start. I’m good. I know that you have all the gray that you can use, but if I get something with some wild bright color, I’ll send it your way.
Heidi Hooper (07:42)
As you can probably see, I should turn this so that you can see. Can you see the boxes? That’s all it. I have 12 foot ceilings and ⁓ this is the kind of box they’re stored in. Little old cheap grocery store salads. Yes, I eat lots of salad. ⁓ Not as much as you would think, but I do. I save all the boxes. ⁓ So I have about a thousand of those, honest to God.
Shannon Grissom (07:50)
That’s all it.
Every
Heidi Hooper (08:14)
The
in this room is pretty much filled with boxes just like that going straight up 12 feet. So yeah, I have a ladder I keep outside the door for when I have to the high spots.
Shannon Grissom (08:25)
that’s great. Well, you do incredible portraits and also animals and they’re very whimsical. And it seems like everything has a story. So tell me the story about everything has a story.
Heidi Hooper (08:40)
I think shrimp because it’s an actual hits home. ⁓ I have that one particular cat, Prebys, who recently passed away. ⁓ Anytime I fix myself a, when I’m, and it’s a commission, it’s a big piece, or I’m having a big piece and I’m having a really great time and everything’s rolling, then I’ll treat myself to like shrimp lunch one day. ⁓ Just for like, you know, to get the juices going again, up higher.
And that cat, I swear to God, she had radar for knowing when you were going to turn and when you weren’t going to turn. And she would steal the shrimp and sit on it. So you look over, go, thought I saw her. Nope. OK. And then she’d go steal another one. So next thing you know, she’s got like four shrimps underneath her and then takes them behind you and eats them. And I’m stuck and going to.
get a shrimp there’s no shrimp I get tails or something that’s it. So yes that piece is is actually taken from things that have happened to me so a lot of my stories are stories that I have seen or happen. ⁓ Like I have one that’s a chipmunk eating pears and that’s because I had
some pear slices that I had tossed outside because they had little brown spots on them. didn’t want to deal with it. And Chipmunk was trying to get the whole stuff in his mouth. And I went, my God, I’ve got to do that as a piece.
Shannon Grissom (10:19)
I love that piece. It’s all cheeks. Yeah.
Heidi Hooper (10:21)
So it’s like
your are there hardly tells a chipmunk it’s all cheeks. ⁓ yeah, my final thing on art pieces is that, and my own art, if it doesn’t make my husband smile or go, that looks seriously accurate, then it goes in a pile to be either tossed or drawn over.
⁓ Because if it doesn’t make him laugh, then I miss the point. ⁓ It’s like, okay, I got to fix the laugh before I can even start this piece. And then on my pieces, I take I have my patreons, they vote each month on what piece I’m going to work on. So I have pieces that it’s like I’m dying to do. And they never vote on it. And it’s like,
Shannon Grissom (11:18)
So that’s great that you get engagement with your people. That’s really cool.
Heidi Hooper (11:25)
I try to. I mean the best thing about my art is that if you have completely crappy hands due to whatever, like I struggle to hold a glass of water, ⁓ and I can do this work because it doesn’t cause as much, you know, strain on my hands. So there’s that little tidbit for people. Yeah.
Shannon Grissom (11:48)
So can you give us a ⁓ rundown of how you create this work? How does that work?
Heidi Hooper (11:55)
I,
my brain doesn’t think normally. best example I give is I was in a carload of people once. My husband was driving, we’re on an old country road and some turkeys start cross on the road. So he stops the car and I start cracking up laughing so hard I can hardly breathe. And he’s like, and everybody in the back seat is like, what the hell is going on? What’s wrong with her?
And my husband goes, just give her a minute. She’s coming up with another piece of art. And he waited until I finally got a breath and he goes, okay, what did you see? Cause we obviously didn’t see what you saw. And I said, she’s in red high heels. She’s clenching her pearls and the other turkeys that want her pearls. ⁓ And at that point, the whole car cracked up.
They were like, your wife is weird. But I did the piece and yep, it sold. So yes, I had a turkey with high heels and clutching her pearls like, my God. ⁓
Shannon Grissom (13:03)
that you feel the joy, you put it in your work, and you’re sharing it with other people. I mean, it doesn’t get any better than that. ⁓
Heidi Hooper (13:10)
I just,
after the cancer, was like, if I don’t make people smile with my art, I don’t want to do it. Bottom line. Just, you know, I had enough bad, I don’t want to deal with bad anymore. And I don’t want to pass it on to anybody else either. So I don’t do terribly serious most of the time except for, you know, admissions.
Shannon Grissom (13:33)
So as far as the physical process of making these pieces, can you give me little rundown of how that works?
Heidi Hooper (13:42)
Okay, that’s my tool. That’s what I use is curved tweezers. I actually have a step by step on my web page if people wanted to download it. I draw on watercolor paper because it’s firmer and I just like the texture the way it reacts with pencils better than pencil paper. ⁓ I don’t know how to explain it better than that. It’s also that ⁓
Shannon Grissom (13:45)
Yeah. Some serious tweezers.
Awesome. Okay.
Heidi Hooper (14:13)
Watercolor paper if you sand it down it sticks to the lint a little better ⁓ But I take I take and draw on that and then I take and put archival tacky on it and then I take and go to the kids the cat’s blankets and Do it all over it. So it’s only an essence of sticky on there because all all paint all glues eat fiber over time
So that way I know I’m safe and the piece isn’t gonna, you know, degrade. ⁓ And then I do a clear overlay, which ⁓ I pulled one out that I could show you. I do an overlay and that’s how I stay in line because as I’m doing the dryer length, you can’t tell what the hell is going on. It really just looks like mush. So I take that.
Shannon Grissom (15:05)
you
Heidi Hooper (15:11)
⁓ like some of this has faded away because that’s a piece that’s done. ⁓ I don’t know you can see that. See, I do like an overlay. Okay. And then the overlay, like here’s the piece. There’s a piece. Overlay. I don’t know if you can tell too well, but the lines are there. then, and that’s what I do in order to finish the piece.
Shannon Grissom (15:20)
can’t yeah
Heidi Hooper (15:41)
So ⁓ yeah, I do overlay. then I constantly, as I’m not working, I keep it with a firm piece of cardboard on top and in a plastic bag. So that way it’s bug-proof, any kind of catastrophe-proof, cat-proof, everything. Exactly. And it keeps it compressed. So they’re actually about an inch thick when I’m done. But you’d.
Shannon Grissom (16:08)
And are they framed under glass or?
Heidi Hooper (16:10)
They’re behind museum glass. Otherwise they literally blow away. As I have learned.
Shannon Grissom (16:20)
Well, you you’ve received ⁓ tremendous recognition for your work, galleries, awards, international recognition. But I know early on there were challenges of people not recognizing your new medium as a type of art. Can you speak to that?
Heidi Hooper (16:38)
I actually, still get it sometimes, but for the most part, it was awful. ⁓ I went hoofing all over the place trying to get people to take it. And it was constantly things like, that’s not an art medium, or, that’s disgusting, would you have to go, well, how clean are your clothes then? But that’s what always went through my mind when they said that. I was like, ⁓ my, this person doesn’t clean their clothes very well.
and and they would be like that’s just too weird i can’t do that i mean it was constant people turning me down ⁓ and so i basically science fiction fantasy conventions were the only places i could show my work when i was starting out and then ripplies which i thought it was a crank or a con ⁓
Contacted me by email saying they wanted to buy work and I’m like, this has got to be a con because nobody wants my work You know, I mean nobody wants it ⁓ and They bought Pete they bought stuff and then it started suddenly people started taking interest ⁓ So I went okay, I’m officially a ⁓ But but then it just it just slowly, you know real like
microscopically slow moving. ⁓ And then after, after about five years of doing it, actually doing the art, I finally got in a craft gallery. ⁓ And then once I got her name on that gallery under my belt, then other places started taking an interest.
But it was like, it was basically word of mouth, I guess, is the only way it really took. And I make fancy brochures that I send out in the mail to all the galleries saying, you’re interested, contact me, blah, blah, blah. And yeah, it was years of nothing. I just kept doing. I kept, I’m.
Shannon Grissom (18:43)
But you kept going. You are
so inspiring. You kept going.
Heidi Hooper (18:50)
was a metal smith because I had a professor tell me girl I don’t teach smithing to the girls because they can’t wield a hammer right so I pulled a book out of the library and gave him a bowl mid-semester. And he fought for him in the next next year smithing so yeah I’m not you don’t tell me I can’t do something because I’m a woman oh my god that is like a challenge I will physically hurt myself before I prove before I will agree I can’t do it.
Ha ha ha!
Shannon Grissom (19:22)
What does it mean to you when people are personally connected to your work? mean, for me, just, it really, your work makes me smile. It just, you know, no matter what’s going on, you turn to your website and start looking at the images. You can’t help but feel good.
Heidi Hooper (19:41)
It’s it’s I feel like I’m I’m I’m sufficiently giving back. I feel like I’m sufficiently paying it forward. ⁓ And that makes me happy. I mean, I can’t. It’s like you’re cloud nine when that person smiles seeing your artwork. You’re like you’re like.
Shannon Grissom (20:05)
Yes, it’s just easy
Heidi Hooper (20:07)
⁓
I’m not good with words. I’m more of an actions person. ⁓ yeah, just, my god, it makes my day. Totally makes my day. It’s kind of like finding ⁓ a stray kitten and the kitten starts purring the second you pick it up. It’s like, it’s that, ⁓ you know.
Shannon Grissom (20:27)
That’s
a great way to describe it. Hey, I saw a picture of Mel Brooks on your website.
Heidi Hooper (20:29)
you
Mel Brooks, yes. ⁓ Yes, I, that was from To Tell the Truth, when I was on To Tell the Truth. I was on, that was another one of those artists, right? I was on To Tell the Truth and with Mel Brooks and I was so nervous. He’s like, my God, I love Mel Brooks. And I’m like, what a perfect person to see my art. Yes, yes.
Shannon Grissom (20:45)
Thank
See you.
Like, yeah.
Heidi Hooper (21:03)
Yeah, it was wild. I kind of didn’t like the way they did it because they went, no, we want you completely, we want you basically stiff and not whatever, not moving. And I’m like, that is so not moving. Just sit there and be stiff.
Shannon Grissom (21:18)
How can you do that?
Heidi Hooper (21:21)
⁓ But yeah, was it was awesome and I I don’t wear lipstick except for like things like this and ⁓ Things like that because I’m allergic to makeup So I’m allergic to a lot of stuff and so I was like, my god. Can I kiss you on the cheek? just I’ve always wanted to like
You make me cuz you made my childhood so happy and he goes yes, he goes Sure, honey. I’d love to have a kiss from you. Totally forgetting. I lipstick on he’s got this big walker my god, I’m sorry. I’m sorry and I started to wipe it off and he goes no no no I will cherish it for the end of my life
Shannon Grissom (21:54)
Thanks.
I can just hear him saying that.
Heidi Hooper (22:10)
my god. My husband was so jealous. He’s like, I had to sit in the audience. I didn’t get to even touch him or see him or say hi.
Shannon Grissom (22:17)
sure what he said.
Wow, that’s great.
Heidi Hooper (22:25)
It
was a blast. It was fun.
Shannon Grissom (22:30)
Now with all of this, do you ever get stuck? Do you ever have times where it’s really hard to create?
Heidi Hooper (22:36)
⁓ yes and no. do, but when I… Those days I sort… Dry your lint. …and file it into boxes and somehow or another within a day or two of doing that, something pops in my head. ⁓ I can’t explain it beyond that. It’s just… I had a therapist once go, so what are you doing your spare time? I sort lint. She goes, I’m sorry I asked.
Shannon Grissom (23:05)
But know that that makes sense. It’s like that old proverb, you know, when when fishermen can’t go to sea, they mend their nets. Yeah, so it’s a set kind of thing. Yeah.
Heidi Hooper (23:15)
Yeah, it’s just like I just do it and I just sort the lint until something pops in my head. But I also I also I don’t allow myself to start a new piece unless I have at least five pieces not counting the piece I’m getting ready to start on online waiting to be done. ⁓ I was I learned that at VCU and that has
that has saved me more times than I can count. ⁓ Times when I desperately needed something and I was like, God, I don’t know what to do. need, because some galleries, they want all new. We don’t want anybody to have ever seen it before. And those are the ones that go like, God. And I can just pull the sketches and say which one you want and do it that way, which has saved my butt a few times. Why am I doing this?
Shannon Grissom (24:12)
Yeah, people pick up on that. So what advice would you give somebody just starting out on a creative path? What do wish you knew when you were younger?
Heidi Hooper (24:23)
Gosh, patience, a lot of patience. ⁓ And these days it’s a lot harder on people I think than it was when I was younger, because you would hoof it. I mean, everything had to be hoofed it, you know? ⁓ But nowadays with everything on computer, it makes it a whole lot harder.
because you’ve got to have a website, you’ve got to have stuff on Instagram, ⁓ you’ve got to have a stockpile of at least 20 pieces on your website, or the galleries won’t even give you the time of day. So I feel sorry for everybody, younger kids getting started. But my advice is just stick with it. If you’re not enjoying it, put it aside. What I do is I write notes on it saying why, what I’m feeling.
at the time and why I feel like it’s not working, I set it aside and start something else. And then when the day comes that you go, ⁓ let’s see if any of those other things are worth reworking. Then you have your comments of what you were experiencing. And I’m constantly trying to teach and learn myself, learn my work better for myself. And don’t let criticism, criticism is somebody’s opinion at the moment.
Just let it go. Just let it go. Treat it as constructive, construct,
What?
Shannon Grissom (25:59)
Do whatever it takes.
Heidi Hooper (26:01)
Yeah,
doesn’t mean you have to, you don’t have to do art. You just do something that occupies your mind so you get it, you get over that hump.
Shannon Grissom (26:08)
Yeah, I know that things roll off of me better than they did when I was younger. And the things that don’t roll off of me, I’m able to transition faster. So I feel like that’s progress. So I’m not stuck in the owl mode. So I’m like, okay, same thing. And physical action for me is a good way to get through that. Go for a walk. Yeah, if I try something.
Heidi Hooper (26:25)
you
Doing writing or reading or something, that doesn’t do it for me. I have to physically do something physical.
Shannon Grissom (26:44)
Yeah, yeah me too and cooking is a great thing too. Needing that bread. ⁓
Heidi Hooper (26:50)
Exactly.
And the cookies taste good afterwards.
Shannon Grissom (26:54)
Oops,
just lost my earpiece I was just so excited. I’m not even going to edit that out. That was real.
Heidi Hooper (27:00)
I’m sorry.
you
Shannon Grissom (27:10)
Wow. Okay, so how about, do you have any advice for people who think they’re not creative or want to be creative, feel like they’re blocked? you have any advice for them to just go for it?
Heidi Hooper (27:24)
Everybody has an artistic good talent somewhere. Yes, there are a hundred thousand or maybe millions of different art techniques you can do across the world. ⁓ Try what this is what I did when I was sick with a cancer and I went, God, what am I going to do? Go on YouTube and just watch.
Shannon Grissom (27:29)
Yeah.
Heidi Hooper (27:50)
the different types of art that there are out there and Try stuff it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work. Try something else ⁓ You know, and if that’s it and sometimes that will inspire you to try something that may be really weird But if it works it works. But yeah that got a YouTube is like a godsend for like teaching people art and Teaching people the options out there. Most people are like they figure
I can’t draw, so what’s the point? And there’s so many other things you could do without drawing. And things like yours, like your podcast. You learn a lot ⁓ from watching podcasts.
Shannon Grissom (28:35)
I do. I do. I get inspired. Fires me up.
Heidi Hooper (28:40)
Don’t you I mean, ⁓
my god. Yeah
Shannon Grissom (28:45)
⁓ Well, thank you for being here, Heidi. You’ve just been incredibly inspiring. So for people who want to get in touch with you, what’s the best place to find you online?
Heidi Hooper (28:55)
⁓ I’m Heidi Hooper at gmail.com and Heidihooper.com or just technically if you type in dryer lint art, I will pop up. I’m the only person in the world crazy enough to keep doing this. There are people that now and then, you know, and they’ll try it and then two years later you never hear from them again. So I’ve never had, I’ve never come across anybody sticking with it other than me. So it’s like, okay.
So I’m still alone.
Shannon Grissom (29:28)
Well, I will put all of those links in the show notes and so that people can find you Thank you everybody for being with us on this made to make Podcast because we are all made to make I can’t wait to see what you create. We’ll see you next time. Bye. Bye ⁓